The ugly reality is that if you SUBSIDIZE poverty you get MORE poverty.
There have ALWAYS been poor people…..and that fact will never change.
Some people simply lack the inherent motivation to do what is required to
rise above poverty. Giving them handouts will NEVER change that reality
but it DOES allow them to breed MORE inherently lazy useless people.
America pioneered the idea of FREE EDUCATION. Yet countless people
over the years REFUSED to stay in school, take advantage of that free
education and better themselves. As long as humans are human there will
alwasy lurk among us those who can only be descibed as a waste of skin,
At one point our Scout group was making these bags of food, crackers, snacks, and drinks to pass out to kids that were on the free lunch program at school on Fridays because otherwise they wouldn’t eat again till Monday at school. We had to tell them “don’t tell your parents”. I get angry just thinking about it. This isn’t somewhere on the other side of the world, it’s right here in my back yard. Your post about mercy buckets and baloney sandwiches point out that decent food doesn’t really have to cost anything. Most of those kids parents could skip a 12 pack and feed their kids. I rant. Sorry.
Dan, I couldn’t disagree with your assessment, however if you allow me to defend my thesis, I am not saying in the meme to subsidize the poor, please read it again. I am saying the rich have made it almost impossible for the poor to feed themselves when they play the reindeer banking games and their inherit greed and lust for power. The multirich and politicians whom suck up to these multirich individuals and corporations to curry favor and become multirich too. I give you gates, bezo, zuckerborg, rockfeller, rothschilds, standard oil, us steel, I could go on. I think you get the picture. All of them want to reduce the population to a minimum, want to serf us, want us to own nothing, no go anywhere. I am not an occupy wall street, aoc lover or gasp.. a liberal. However, I am poor, dirt fucking poor and I feed myself I have some luxuries. I pay taxes, I pay insurance on vehicles and my apartment. The genuine poor are for the most part proud and only want to make their way.
Cederq, I agree….many of the Uber rich are distilled evil. As the “joke” goes “what do you call a man with 2 billion dollars? Someone for whom 1 billion wasn’t enough”. To a lot of the filthy rich it isn’t the money and it isn’t the “stuff”. It’s the POWER that goes along with money. If they weren’t powerful from having money they’d have probably gone into politics to satisfy the lust for power. But to claim that the rich could solve the problem of poverty doesn’t address the reality of human nature. Some people are driven to become rich, often out of nasty ulterior motives. Others can’t be motivated by ANY means at all. And some claim that because the rich have “too much” there isn’t enough left for the poor. That’s not an entirely accurate claim because there is no FINITE amount of “wealth”. The problem is one of human nature far more than an economic one.
Human nature is inherently good. We were made in the image of God. The problem is the leftists worship government instead of God. This is a perversion of human nature which leads to lust for power
This points out something that has bothered me for many years and is one of the many reasons I don’t like organized religion.
The Catholic Church has literally been sitting on BILLIONS of dollars, yet they eternally have their hand out and the collection plate under the noses of those who can least afford it.
As a matter of fact, I have seen people estimate that the Pope is sitting on almost one trillion dollars in assets.
Name me one, just one, major expenditure that they have used to help out a large number of poor people at one time.
I’m talking something along the lines of a hundred million dollars or more.
I’ll be waiting over here.
I remember as a child, a small Roman Catholic parish in western NYS and.going to weekly, Sunday mass. What I will NEVER forget are the ushers collecting SEVEN different collection envelopes; passing the collection basket seven times ! Rumor was.the monsignor owned a thoroughbred he raced at Niagara Downs.
“The Catholic Church has literally been sitting on BILLIONS of dollars, yet they eternally have their hand out and the collection plate under the noses of those who can least afford it”.
They are not sitting on it, catholic charities funds a lot of the refugee resettlement.
Actually, the government is paying catholic charities, as well as other religious organizations to help settle refugees. It has become quite a money maker for them. And, I am sure the government is thankful for the arrangement, as I am sure it helps certain individuals more readily accept the refugees if they think the religious groups are in charge of it. https://cis.org/Religious-Agencies-and-Refugee-Resettlement
Refugee resettlement. Instead of motivating people to fix their own homelands and governments we incentivize them to run from their problems at home and resettle in foreign countries.
Poverty is nothing new. Even Jesus spoke to this in Mark 14 3 While he was in Bethany, reclining at the table in the home of Simon the Leper, a woman came with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, made of pure nard. She broke the jar and poured the perfume on his head.
4 Some of those present were saying indignantly to one another, “Why this waste of perfume? 5 It could have been sold for more than a year’s wages[a] and the money given to the poor.” And they rebuked her harshly.
6 “Leave her alone,” said Jesus. “Why are you bothering her? She has done a beautiful thing to me. 7 The poor you will always have with you,[b] and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me. 8 She did what she could. She poured perfume on my body beforehand to prepare for my burial.
Proverbs 16:26
New International Version
The appetite of laborers works for them; their hunger drives them on.
New Living Translation
It is good for workers to have an appetite; an empty stomach drives them on.
Ronald Regan was right the “best social program is a job”.
The rich vs poor is its own system outside of the scope of systemic, national poverty. In the western world, teaching kids the difference between an asset and a liability; as well as what savings are for, would help a great amount in keeping our own people out of poverty. The financial system is just that, a system; it has rules to play by and most people do not know the rules, nor do they make any attempt to learn them.
The masses go with the flow, dig into college debt, and get a job that produces “earned income”, which is the worst kind of income; and they are perpetually ensnared with balancing their income (job) vs their liabilities. Some live below their means and have a savings account but without understanding what to do beyond that; they rarely achieve higher class. Knowing how to build assets that pay for more assets, as well as covering liabilities will help enable prosperity.
Often the simplest answer is the correct answer. Poverty on a national scale has little to do with the ultra rich, and only in a few circumstance does it have anything to do with the type of government; I.E socialism, communism, or a subjugated people. In my observations, it has everything to do with the people themselves. Everyone has their poor people, but only some people(s) have vast quantities of perpetually poor people; regardless of the centuries passed or the litany of governments they have had.
People can throw all the food and money they want at the third world but it’s going to make the problem worse because there are now MORE mouths to feed, MORE bodies to cloth, and MORE perpetually poor people that have no desire to build a future for themselves or their posterity. The bleeding hearts will say we need need to send MORE to fix it, or bring MORE to America.
NO! If dirt were magic and could change the nature of people, I would be smoking tobacco, rain-dancing, and painting my horse right now, rather than using a computer and enjoying air conditioning; even though the A/C is rather weak. The Chinese would be making skin shields and spears in Africa, rather than turning it into productive farm land.
Even considering the most recent stimulus checks from the American taxpayers. I put them into my sole proprietorship to grow my way out of the lower class; yet many others have sought new TVs when their existing screen is still functioning, new car despite their existing car has plenty of miles left in it, a new graphics cards when they could have invested the money.
For me, the stimulus checks were a “hand-up” rather than a “hand-out”; they enabled me to accelerate the growth of my business, but, I don’t belong to the people(s) that lack desire to build a future or live exclusively in the moment. There will come a day when I can pass it along the help and more.
A work requirement or net-taxpayer status would reduce welfare abuse to historical lows; it would curb all the new toys and send welfare to people who are willing to work.
Bustednuckles 
Nailed it.
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The ugly reality is that if you SUBSIDIZE poverty you get MORE poverty.
There have ALWAYS been poor people…..and that fact will never change.
Some people simply lack the inherent motivation to do what is required to
rise above poverty. Giving them handouts will NEVER change that reality
but it DOES allow them to breed MORE inherently lazy useless people.
America pioneered the idea of FREE EDUCATION. Yet countless people
over the years REFUSED to stay in school, take advantage of that free
education and better themselves. As long as humans are human there will
alwasy lurk among us those who can only be descibed as a waste of skin,
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At one point our Scout group was making these bags of food, crackers, snacks, and drinks to pass out to kids that were on the free lunch program at school on Fridays because otherwise they wouldn’t eat again till Monday at school. We had to tell them “don’t tell your parents”. I get angry just thinking about it. This isn’t somewhere on the other side of the world, it’s right here in my back yard. Your post about mercy buckets and baloney sandwiches point out that decent food doesn’t really have to cost anything. Most of those kids parents could skip a 12 pack and feed their kids. I rant. Sorry.
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Dan, I couldn’t disagree with your assessment, however if you allow me to defend my thesis, I am not saying in the meme to subsidize the poor, please read it again. I am saying the rich have made it almost impossible for the poor to feed themselves when they play the reindeer banking games and their inherit greed and lust for power. The multirich and politicians whom suck up to these multirich individuals and corporations to curry favor and become multirich too. I give you gates, bezo, zuckerborg, rockfeller, rothschilds, standard oil, us steel, I could go on. I think you get the picture. All of them want to reduce the population to a minimum, want to serf us, want us to own nothing, no go anywhere. I am not an occupy wall street, aoc lover or gasp.. a liberal. However, I am poor, dirt fucking poor and I feed myself I have some luxuries. I pay taxes, I pay insurance on vehicles and my apartment. The genuine poor are for the most part proud and only want to make their way.
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Cederq, I agree….many of the Uber rich are distilled evil. As the “joke” goes “what do you call a man with 2 billion dollars? Someone for whom 1 billion wasn’t enough”. To a lot of the filthy rich it isn’t the money and it isn’t the “stuff”. It’s the POWER that goes along with money. If they weren’t powerful from having money they’d have probably gone into politics to satisfy the lust for power. But to claim that the rich could solve the problem of poverty doesn’t address the reality of human nature. Some people are driven to become rich, often out of nasty ulterior motives. Others can’t be motivated by ANY means at all. And some claim that because the rich have “too much” there isn’t enough left for the poor. That’s not an entirely accurate claim because there is no FINITE amount of “wealth”. The problem is one of human nature far more than an economic one.
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“If they weren’t powerful from having money they’d have probably gone into politics to satisfy the lust for power”.
Which would make them wealthy also. The politicians could not do it on their own so they went into politics
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Human nature is inherently good. We were made in the image of God. The problem is the leftists worship government instead of God. This is a perversion of human nature which leads to lust for power
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This points out something that has bothered me for many years and is one of the many reasons I don’t like organized religion.
The Catholic Church has literally been sitting on BILLIONS of dollars, yet they eternally have their hand out and the collection plate under the noses of those who can least afford it.
As a matter of fact, I have seen people estimate that the Pope is sitting on almost one trillion dollars in assets.
Name me one, just one, major expenditure that they have used to help out a large number of poor people at one time.
I’m talking something along the lines of a hundred million dollars or more.
I’ll be waiting over here.
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I remember as a child, a small Roman Catholic parish in western NYS and.going to weekly, Sunday mass. What I will NEVER forget are the ushers collecting SEVEN different collection envelopes; passing the collection basket seven times ! Rumor was.the monsignor owned a thoroughbred he raced at Niagara Downs.
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“The Catholic Church has literally been sitting on BILLIONS of dollars, yet they eternally have their hand out and the collection plate under the noses of those who can least afford it”.
They are not sitting on it, catholic charities funds a lot of the refugee resettlement.
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Actually, the government is paying catholic charities, as well as other religious organizations to help settle refugees. It has become quite a money maker for them. And, I am sure the government is thankful for the arrangement, as I am sure it helps certain individuals more readily accept the refugees if they think the religious groups are in charge of it.
https://cis.org/Religious-Agencies-and-Refugee-Resettlement
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Refugee resettlement. Instead of motivating people to fix their own homelands and governments we incentivize them to run from their problems at home and resettle in foreign countries.
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Third world countries are poor and hungry because the people have no freedom.
Ronald Reagan said “best social program is a job”.
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Third world countries have poor and starving populations because the people in charge take all the aid to line their pockets.
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Poverty is nothing new. Even Jesus spoke to this in Mark 14 3 While he was in Bethany, reclining at the table in the home of Simon the Leper, a woman came with an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, made of pure nard. She broke the jar and poured the perfume on his head.
4 Some of those present were saying indignantly to one another, “Why this waste of perfume? 5 It could have been sold for more than a year’s wages[a] and the money given to the poor.” And they rebuked her harshly.
6 “Leave her alone,” said Jesus. “Why are you bothering her? She has done a beautiful thing to me. 7 The poor you will always have with you,[b] and you can help them any time you want. But you will not always have me. 8 She did what she could. She poured perfume on my body beforehand to prepare for my burial.
Proverbs 16:26
New International Version
The appetite of laborers works for them; their hunger drives them on.
New Living Translation
It is good for workers to have an appetite; an empty stomach drives them on.
Ronald Regan was right the “best social program is a job”.
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The rich vs poor is its own system outside of the scope of systemic, national poverty. In the western world, teaching kids the difference between an asset and a liability; as well as what savings are for, would help a great amount in keeping our own people out of poverty. The financial system is just that, a system; it has rules to play by and most people do not know the rules, nor do they make any attempt to learn them.
The masses go with the flow, dig into college debt, and get a job that produces “earned income”, which is the worst kind of income; and they are perpetually ensnared with balancing their income (job) vs their liabilities. Some live below their means and have a savings account but without understanding what to do beyond that; they rarely achieve higher class. Knowing how to build assets that pay for more assets, as well as covering liabilities will help enable prosperity.
Often the simplest answer is the correct answer. Poverty on a national scale has little to do with the ultra rich, and only in a few circumstance does it have anything to do with the type of government; I.E socialism, communism, or a subjugated people. In my observations, it has everything to do with the people themselves. Everyone has their poor people, but only some people(s) have vast quantities of perpetually poor people; regardless of the centuries passed or the litany of governments they have had.
People can throw all the food and money they want at the third world but it’s going to make the problem worse because there are now MORE mouths to feed, MORE bodies to cloth, and MORE perpetually poor people that have no desire to build a future for themselves or their posterity. The bleeding hearts will say we need need to send MORE to fix it, or bring MORE to America.
NO! If dirt were magic and could change the nature of people, I would be smoking tobacco, rain-dancing, and painting my horse right now, rather than using a computer and enjoying air conditioning; even though the A/C is rather weak. The Chinese would be making skin shields and spears in Africa, rather than turning it into productive farm land.
Even considering the most recent stimulus checks from the American taxpayers. I put them into my sole proprietorship to grow my way out of the lower class; yet many others have sought new TVs when their existing screen is still functioning, new car despite their existing car has plenty of miles left in it, a new graphics cards when they could have invested the money.
For me, the stimulus checks were a “hand-up” rather than a “hand-out”; they enabled me to accelerate the growth of my business, but, I don’t belong to the people(s) that lack desire to build a future or live exclusively in the moment. There will come a day when I can pass it along the help and more.
A work requirement or net-taxpayer status would reduce welfare abuse to historical lows; it would curb all the new toys and send welfare to people who are willing to work.
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